Leah Feiger: And so many have been. Absolute.
Katie Drummond: There have been so many, so my answer has been, this will go through the court and it will lead through the legal system, and it will be slow and messy and painful, but that is what the legal system is here to protect and here is Safeguard is our democracy and these checks and balances. This is a kind of last position, right?
Leah Feiger: Absolute.
Katie Drummond: The courts are the last position in terms of our democracy and constitutional integrity. What we are looking at now is the possibility that it may not apply. What would that even look like if that happened? I know you are not a legal expert, besides being the political editor of Wired, but what have you heard? What have experts told you in the course of your report?
Leah Feiger: There are many people who say: “Look, these Golds will come through. Musk and Trump will be attractive, and then this will eventually end in the Supreme Court.” Many people actually take comfort here. They say: “Yes, the court may lean fairly republican ideologically, but these are trained professionals who will understand that these legal systems must be maintained and held.” I'm not that sure.
Katie Drummond: Right.
Leah Feiger: I will be completely honest. In terms of what happens next, I think so, in some respects, the slow march of these legal systems, although decisions, even temporary, have come down very quickly, there is a lot of room to move quickly and break things from Doge's side Meanwhile.
Katie Drummond: Yes.
Leah Feiger: Many of these eggs cannot be disconnected. Many of these dismissals and dismissals are … It will be very difficult to walk back as soon as a court is finally able to say, “No, no, no, this simply cannot hold on.” And that's …
Katie Drummond: If they can say that at all.
Leah Feiger: If they can say that at all.
Katie Drummond: Right.
Leah Feiger: We hear that concern of experts across the board at the moment. We have never seen anything like that.
Katie Drummond: We certainly don't have that. Not here in the United States. No.
Leah Feiger: Not here in the United States.
Katie Drummond: Well, in the meantime we hold our breath. We continue to do the work, and we will continue to deliver you all, CBNewz listeners and CBNewz readers, our report, what we know as we know it. That is our dedication to you. You can read all the reports that Leah and her team do on Wired.com. Leah, thank you very much for taking the time to be with me here. I know how busy you are.
Leah Feiger: Thank you very much. I like to talk about government takeovers with you, Katie.
Katie Drummond: Well, now take a muesli bar from my office.
Leah Feiger: At the point to steal one immediately.
Katie Drummond: That is our show for today. We will come back tomorrow with an episode from our regular round table, everything about the state of dating apps, a bit of airy counter programming for all of you. If you like what you have heard today, follow that you are following Creepy valley And rate it on your podcast app of your choice. If you want to contact someone of us for questions, comments or suggestions, write to us at uncannyvalley@CBNewz. Amar Lal at Macro Sound mixed this episode, with technical support from Jake Lummus. Jordan Bell is our executive producer. The head of Global Audio of Condé Nast is Chris Bannon, and I am Katie Drummond, the global editor of Wired. Thank you very much. Bye.
