Marc Andreessen [archival audio]: So I decided to read my way out in both directions, both all the way to the left, all the way to Lenin and Marx and communism on the one hand, and then all the way to the right on the other side, and see if I can at least reconstruct a worldview for at least any sense of context for what is happening today.
Lauren Goode: At that time this is 2022, when he did this Upstream Interview, he says he is somewhere in the middle. He acknowledges that he is an excellent beneficiary of globalization, says that he also works in an industry that is incredibly enriched by immigration, but you can also get an idea of this podcast social requirements of the left at the moment.
Zoë Schiffer: I feel that we are becoming a troll because we are going to talk a lot about other podcasts on our podcast, but just let me say that it is journalism to listen to these extremely long interviews. Oh, my God, we don't just look at the clips.
Lauren Goode: I know. May I just say, I have always enjoyed my walks along Ocean Beach and now I am just like, well, let me pick up a three -hour podcast.
Michael Calore: To be honest, if you go into the spirit of someone like Marc Andreessen who constantly thinks about 18 different things at the same time, then listening to him a few hours of talking is a good way to get a very complete picture of where are Spirit is.
Lauren Goode: Yes, absolutely, or at least as complete of a photo as we will probably get.
Michael Calore: So, through the Biden government, Marc Andreessen met the White House in his capacity as venture capitalist to help the government regulation to the territory that would be more favorable for his investments, and things really started to shift with his relationship with Biden. Were there specific problems that they did not see?
Zoë Schiffer: Yes, certainly, but one thing that really recorded me when we listened to Marc Andreessen, talk about these meetings and the issues they fought for is, I think it is clear that billionaires meet a high -ranking government, but every time When I hear it, I am, oh, wow, I think the world works like that. They sit down talking about their grievances. They get the direct line to the White House.
Lauren Goode: They are actually talking about memecoins.
Zoë Schiffer: Yes, that's what they do. But literally, Lauren, that seems to be what happens. So yes, the three areas that apparently don't really see the Biden administration and the Marc Andreessen of the world are content aircraft, crypto and AI. So, with content mattress, Mark Zuckerberg has talked a lot about this lately, but there is a feeling that the Biden administration is calling tech companies, putting pressure on them, this is actually called Job Owning, to put posts or to do certain stories Suppress. Marc Andreessen, he has implied that he feels pretty uncomfortable with this. In particular with the crypto industry, Marc says that the BIDEN administration is a terror campaign against Crypto, and this is clearly personal because his risk capital company, Andreessen Horowitz, has 7.6 billion in crypto assets, and Biden do things like The issue of executive orders, specifying federal agencies to assess the risks of crypto. He mentions SEC chairman Gary Genler, who rises pretty considerably considerably, and then the real breaking point with AI, so leading to the 2024 election between Biden and Trump, Marc Andreessen has again has these closed-door meetings, he says, with The Biden administration, and they say they are very involved with AI. According to Marc, they will in fact not flourish AI startups, they will only have a few major technology companies that do AI, and the government will basically control them. Sam Altman has come out publicly and said that this is not his view of those meetings, which he apparently may attend, but Marc is like, we cannot allow this. We have to come out in full power for Donald Trump, and that's what he does.
