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    Lauren Goode: I can't remember that.

    Zoë Schiffer: I think she did.

    Michael Calore: I don't know why everyone is looking at me.

    Lauren Goode: Yes. Mike, what is your recommendation?

    Michael Calore: Mine actually ties in strangely with the unboxing we just had, because I want to recommend spices. So everyone has that thing they like to put on their food. I have a friend who puts Jordanian za'atar on literally everything. I have a friend who loves the very expensive, fancy Meyer lemon olive oil that costs $25 a bottle and drizzles it on their breakfast every day. Maybe there's a chili chip someone…

    Zoë Schiffer: Oh my god. I was just about to say it.

    Michael Calore: Right, because chili chips can cost $20.

    Zoë Schiffer: So expensive.

    Michael Calore: So expensive. So just give them a year's supply. You know they will use it. And it's completely thoughtful. It shows that you care, that you have enough insight into their lives to know them well enough as a person to know how to make them happy. So yeah, that's…

    Zoë Schiffer: That's such a good one.

    Michael Calore: If you can't decide, I don't know what their size is. I don't know if they've read this book. I don't know if they would actually use this, give them the thing that you know they love and you know they will use.

    Zoë Schiffer: That's such a good one. It's such a good one because it's hard to get yourself. I keep running into this problem because my brother and my mother are both chefs. So when they come home, they give me this really expensive one, like the Momofuku Chili Crisp, and I say, “Well, I'm completely addicted to that. I need it on all my trips.” always meals.” And then I go to buy it, and I'm like, “$18 for this little…” No, I can't.

    Lauren Goode: That's actually my favorite topping. Momofuku Chili Crisp.

    Zoë Schiffer: You can put it on anything.

    Michael Calore: Have you tried the Fly By Jing yet?

    Lauren Goode: No.

    Zoë Schiffer: Oh yeah, really good too. It's a Sichuan chili.

    Michael Calore: Great.

    Zoë Schiffer: Really tasty.

    Lauren Goode: This is great. God, I feel like I literally recommended Snake Oil and everyone's like, “Oh, Mike. Yeah. Thanks.” Now I'm hungry.

    Michael Calore: Okay, that's our show for today. We will be back in the new year. Thanks for listening Eerie Valley. If you like what you heard today, follow our show and rate it on the podcast app of your choice. If you would like to contact us with any questions, comments or suggestions, please write to us at uncannyvalley@CBNewz. Today's show is produced by Kyana Moghadam. Amar Lal from Macrosound mixed this episode. Jordan Bell is our executive producer. Condé Nast's head of Global Audio is Chris Bannon.